There were well over 500K of these items, and very few were turned in or destroyed. The ATF is at it again. … .. so i’ll just give this to you straight….. )… ) Whatever. Same law, same penalty. For any particular situation, it is highly recommended that a licensed local attorney be consulted for an accurate interpretation. UPDATE, Dec. 23, 2020: Several days after publication of this story, the ATF withdrew its Objective Factors for Classifying Weapons with “Stabilizing Braces” guidance. Just give them what ever they want so I can keep my single shot break action 22. The MCX pistol with a folding brace is super compact and easy to carry. And citizens affected will have to sue to the SCOTUS. This is not accurate. Traitors who swore an oath to uphold constitution? I don’t own one of these, but I’ll go to bat for those who do. Let me start off by stating that restrictions on short barreled rifles and shotguns are asinine. When times are good, most people will comply with the law, even if they don’t agree with it because the threat of punishment. Which, of course, we’ve always rationally known is true because criminals don’t care about these inane laws anyway. I know of no debate, ever, questioning the legality or purpose of “cheeking” a braced gun. I’m hearing too many rumors over pistol brace criminalization to ignore this distinct and real possibility. The same liberals and RINO’s will be hitting us with a barrage of gun control schemes. FATD can suck a FATD. No need to dig through hard copies of 4473s. Paul Ryan? Not just there, but with our representatives. This methodology carried over to the pistol brace scene. I’ve said this before, and will repeat myself once again.The ATF and Dept.of Justice, where it currently hangs it’s hat, are both a load of bureaucratic crap respecting anything having to do with firearms The fact that the bureaucratic rubbish, decrees of faceless paper pushers have and retain the force of law is nothing other than a giant zitz on the face or behind of The Congress. I suspect no braced Shockwave or TAC-14 would be acceptable, but who knows. On Wednesday night the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) withdrew a proposed guidance that would have reclassified millions of AR-15 style pistols and other weapons with braces that stabilize a user's wrist when firing, to short-barreled rifles, which are much more heavily regulated. Possibly, the BATFE will just revert back to their last decision and state that the user cannot place the brace against the shoulder and there will be no confiscation of the braces as some gun owners fear. But, it’s more subjective than that. There are various styles and configurations of AR pistol braces, with some resembling traditional stocks, and others being just a padded buffer tube. The first and only time I know of that ATF went after a pistol brace did not turn out well for them: https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/atf-suffers-rare-court-loss-in-ohio-short-barrel-rifle-prosecution/. When the first shoulder brace was approved, ATF stated it was item based. Don’t worry, they will know if they should let you out with no bail or not when they see you. Basically, what type and configuration of firearm the rogue bureaucracy gives its blessing for adornment with a pistol stabilizing brace, and what type it claims is just a short barreled rifle in pistol clothing. What seems obvious to one clearly escapes the other, regardless of protests. Trusting the government and the media is trusting China. ……..…../´¯/)………… (\¯`\ Clear to me does not equal clear to you. The Q LLC Honey Badger pistol, which fires the .300 blackout cartridge, sports a barrel length under 16 inches and uses a pistol arm brace, which traditionally allowed a firearm to be classified as a pistol under ATF guidelines, even though it is visually similar to a rifle, according to the letter.. I have one in the drawer next to me as I write this, as a low-tech silent backup for shooing away noisy ravens in the 60-high tree outside my window. In the middle east, slingshots kill people and cause serious injury to Jewish soldiers. You have entered an incorrect email address! .\…………….\/…/….\. Same holds true for parents and kids. Depending on how you define rifle, it could be either, both or neither. 2. Notify me via e-mail if anyone answers my comment. Just like bump stocks; regulating shoulder braces or even having the category of a Short Barrel Rifle is 1) meaningless, 2) adds unnecessary bureaucracy, and 3) pushes currently law abiding gun owners to the edge of becoming felons. It is a duck. Sure, there will be some out there who aren’t, but the same could be said of your career field, too. Hope this is sarcasm…Why build an SBR on an 80% lower? Unfortunately, that’s not at all how it works. Call your representatives. ATF Changes Mind Again – All Pistol Braces Can Come Out of the Closet! I’m fine with deterministic definitions ( X length, Y weight, etc). In mine, a greedy manufacturer who should have recognized the rabbit hole and avoided it…but instead endangers a concept of great interest to all of us who enjoy tinkering and building our own firearms. Basically, overnight bumpstocks became machine guns by the stroke of a pen. #1 or #2 won’t cut it. SB Tactical® Pistol Stabilizing Braces are designed and intended only for use as forearm braces. I will guarantee you that the first order of business for every employee of ATF and every other federal and state agency is to keep the agency going and as well funded as possible. So if your gun’s LoP makes it perfect for shouldering, well, the ATF says you have an Short Barreled Rifle (or Shotgun). Manufacture pistols with a hook on the front of the trigger guard that has no Earthly purpose other than to facilitate a 2-handed grip? ATF must have gotten to TTAG as well. The ATF is looking to crack down on a loophole that allows owners of AR-15s, AK-47s, and other automatic and semi-automatic rifles to modify their rifles into pistols by use of what's known in the industry as a "pistol brace." Besides, gun ownership is greatly under-reported among Leftist scum. you will all cave, even the site is moderated and controlled by ATF and FBI. There would seem to be no path to enforcement unless the pistol is used in a crime or winds up in police hands and the BATF’s. Perhaps others as well. This is a massive problem with the entire bureaucratic state. There is also no path to legal certainty for brace owners but ATF determination. Our braces are available for a wide variety of firearm platforms and provide you with all of the advantages of a handgun, but with an additional point of contact — adding greater stability, accuracy, and control. (Rhetorical question, the answer is absolutely nothing.) There would appear to be a path to determination of legality for licensed firearm manufactures through submission to ATF. They look and dress in casual street clothes like you and I do. Who is a ‘Responsible Person’ on an NFA Trust? When the Indian Jamaican princess takes over she will have the ATF declare all ARs illegal just like that. If they changed that, it has not been well reported. Beginning Friday the public can leave comments at Objective Factors for Classifying Weapons with … Please register your ar pistol with brace with the NFA. The fact that we are even discussing this is disgusting. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. . Look at how they went into a cold sweat over all the rioting and protests this summer when only the tiniest fraction of the population were participants. The revised look at the way pistol stabilizing braces are categorized is not necessarily a surprise. For the time being, I suppose try to stay within the “objective” factors…if you’re inclined to care. Millions of law abiding citizens have chosen to add pistol stabilizing braces to their firearms, and now those accessories, and the guns they are attached to, are again in question. Maybe, it’s hard to say, and that’s a problem. Just when you thought 2020 couldn’t get any weirder, the ATF decided that they can get more shenanigans under the wire as the 2020 clock ticks down. Collectively, can we move the needle at the White House? A few scant years ago, there was no such animal as pistol braces. BATFE will do what they are told. We can be our own worst enemies! The last decade has proven beyond any doubt that SBRs — if the ATF’s contention that many braced pistols are SBRs has any validity whatsoever — are not likely to be used for criminal purposes (less than 3 percent of murders are committed with any type of rifle). Does any addition to the buffer tube cross the pistol-to-SBR fuzzy line? We all know this yet we will not admit it. © COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. They were overwhelmed and couldn’t keep up. A political solution would be for the President to shut down this garbage. FYI --- 1) SB 5444/HB 1387: A ban on unregistered semi-autos and magazines. Except for that time he banned bump-stocks (an unregulated un-serialized accessory) with an executive order. Let’s look at some of the keys and how the holistic/subjective nature of this proposed brace pseudo-ban work out. They get off on collecting stamps and ATF opinion letters. 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